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		<title>By: Donnie</title>
		<link>http://www.liquideggproduct.com/a-birthday-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-6525</link>
		<dc:creator>Donnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 15:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The answer is here:  &lt;a href=&quot;http://mathforum.org/dr.math/faq/faq.birthdayprob.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://mathforum.org/dr.math/faq/faq.birthdayprob.html&lt;/a&gt;.  I thought it would be around 5%, it&#039;s actually ~50.7%

@Mascot:  Probability, not calculus.  Dimwit.

@Annie:  What was the scary part?  Being in the same room with 22 people?

@Wang:  Fortunately, I won&#039;t have to show the math.   Wikipedia will do it for me.

@Chesstiger:  Yes, I should have recognized few readers would want to take the time solving the problem.

@likesforests:  Hmmm, by estimate I more meant a rough feeling without calculation.  But I didn&#039;t make that clear.  (Mine was 5%.  Boy was that off.)

Your rough calculation is roughly correct.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The answer is here:  <a href="http://mathforum.org/dr.math/faq/faq.birthdayprob.html" rel="nofollow">http://mathforum.org/dr.math/faq/faq.birthdayprob.html</a>.  I thought it would be around 5%, it&#8217;s actually ~50.7%</p>
<p>@Mascot:  Probability, not calculus.  Dimwit.</p>
<p>@Annie:  What was the scary part?  Being in the same room with 22 people?</p>
<p>@Wang:  Fortunately, I won&#8217;t have to show the math.   Wikipedia will do it for me.</p>
<p>@Chesstiger:  Yes, I should have recognized few readers would want to take the time solving the problem.</p>
<p>@likesforests:  Hmmm, by estimate I more meant a rough feeling without calculation.  But I didn&#8217;t make that clear.  (Mine was 5%.  Boy was that off.)</p>
<p>Your rough calculation is roughly correct.</p>
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		<title>By: likesforests</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 07:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After a few drinks, considering the trickier problem:

Estimate: 60%

(Work in my Head)

Change Guy#1 has unique birthday: 100%
Change Guy#22 has unique birthday: (365-22)/365 = 17/18
Change Guy#x (random 1-22) has unique birthday = 35/36
Chance everyone has unique birthday = (35/36)^22
Gross approximation = (36-22)/36 = 14/36 = 42%  
So chance of at least one non-unique birthday = 58%

Rough Calculation:
1 - ( (365-(22/2) )/365 )^22 = 49%</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After a few drinks, considering the trickier problem:</p>
<p>Estimate: 60%</p>
<p>(Work in my Head)</p>
<p>Change Guy#1 has unique birthday: 100%<br />
Change Guy#22 has unique birthday: (365-22)/365 = 17/18<br />
Change Guy#x (random 1-22) has unique birthday = 35/36<br />
Chance everyone has unique birthday = (35/36)^22<br />
Gross approximation = (36-22)/36 = 14/36 = 42%<br />
So chance of at least one non-unique birthday = 58%</p>
<p>Rough Calculation:<br />
1 &#8211; ( (365-(22/2) )/365 )^22 = 49%</p>
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		<title>By: chesstiger</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 06:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you crazy? I am not solving your math test. Do it yourself! 

Me and calculus, two hands not on the same belly. I hate, despice, gag, calculus. With other words. Tell me to write something and i might come up with something. Tell me to count x and y minus z and you will be waiting your whole life for the outcome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you crazy? I am not solving your math test. Do it yourself! </p>
<p>Me and calculus, two hands not on the same belly. I hate, despice, gag, calculus. With other words. Tell me to write something and i might come up with something. Tell me to count x and y minus z and you will be waiting your whole life for the outcome.</p>
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		<title>By: wang</title>
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		<dc:creator>wang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 05:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>50%

I remember this (or at least I think I do) from stats.  But I haven&#039;t the slightest on how to calculate this anymore.

If I remember correctly it jumps up to something like 99% with 50 people in the room.  

Looking forward to you showing us the math on this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>50%</p>
<p>I remember this (or at least I think I do) from stats.  But I haven&#8217;t the slightest on how to calculate this anymore.</p>
<p>If I remember correctly it jumps up to something like 99% with 50 people in the room.  </p>
<p>Looking forward to you showing us the math on this one.</p>
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		<title>By: likesforests</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 03:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I misread your question and considered a simpler one--what&#039;s the chance that at least one of the twenty two others at the party has the same exact birthday as you?

Estimation = 6%
Calculation = 5.86%</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I misread your question and considered a simpler one&#8211;what&#8217;s the chance that at least one of the twenty two others at the party has the same exact birthday as you?</p>
<p>Estimation = 6%<br />
Calculation = 5.86%</p>
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		<title>By: annie</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 00:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!

I had half a bottle of zinfandel before I qrote this and I still don&#039;t know. you&#039;ve scarred me for life. and that&#039;s hard to do. good job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!</p>
<p>I had half a bottle of zinfandel before I qrote this and I still don&#8217;t know. you&#8217;ve scarred me for life. and that&#8217;s hard to do. good job.</p>
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		<title>By: The Mascot</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Mascot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 21:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: part 2.  You wrote that like you expect most people to know calculus.  They don&#039;t.  Dimwit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: part 2.  You wrote that like you expect most people to know calculus.  They don&#8217;t.  Dimwit.</p>
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